From: Barry Silk Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.oldies,rec.games.trivia Subject: RESULTS FOR GOLDEN OLDIES LYRICS QUIZ #85 Date: 13 Dec 1995 16:19:36 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Message-ID: <4amuep$4t1@news.cais.com> RESULTS & ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #85 (GOLQ85) Congratulations to JAMIE LUBIN who was able to quickly figure out my theme and use it to help guide him to a perfect score! Way to go Jamie! Several other teams figured out the theme and put it to good use. Three teams tied for second place with superior scores: JYRKI ILVA & PEKKA HALONEN, RICK & KATHY SCHUBERT, and IRIS SHAPIRO & THE GYPSY'S CARAVAN. Excellent scores were also achieved by REALLY ROCKIN' IN BOSTON and PETE OLDEN. If you haven't figured out the theme, take a look at the first letter of all song titles and see what it spells! Thanks to everyone for participating and may your holidays be filled with golden oldies music! T.P.Uschanov will be posting GOLQ86 shortly. Barry Silk barrys@cais.com ____________________________________________________________________________ There is a "+" after Score below for each tie-breaker answered correctly; a "-" indicates partial credit. An "x" indicates a totally incorrect guess. # on Pos Score ID Name & E-mail address team age(s) ---|-----|--|-----------------------------------------------------|----|------- 1 500++ JL Jamie Lubin jil@donuts0.bellcore.com 1 50 T2 460++ JI Jyrki Ilva & Pekka Halonen ilva@cc.helsinki.fi 2 27,27 T2 460++ RS Rick & Kathy Schubert 2 43,46 rns@npg-sd.sandiegoca.attgis.com T2 460++ IS Iris Shapiro & the Gypsy's Caravan with 5 21+ Wayne Swickley, Lane Quigley, Jack Freeman, and Chris Stone mcju24a@prodigy.com 5 420++ RR Really Rockin' In Boston marc@world.std.com 2 40s 6 350+. PO Pete Olden oldenp1@jaguar.uofs.edu 1 40+ T7 270+. TA Team Asia (Mitch & Barry) yherczeg@jer1.co.il 2 43,43 T7 270+. EJ The EJ'S & Co.: Ellis, Jeff, Steve, 11 30+ Molly, Denise, Elaine, Bill, Vinnie, Danda, Kim, Jake bromberg@uiuc.edu T9 250+. OT Mike Weaver, Ben Bagdonas, George Mclellan 3 late40s oldtunes@aol.com T9 250+. WM Will McCorry wmccorry@fox.nstn.ns.ca 1 38 T11 240+. TO Tom O'Connor & Associates tommyo@tellabs.com 4 30s-40s T11 240+. MF Michael Flint mflint@ix.netcom.com 1 44 T11 240+. RC Ron & Sally Crandall crandall@pop.psu.edu 2 44,44 14 230+. NK Norm Katuna & Steve Propes normk@cts.com 2 ?? 15 220+- DT Delphi Trivia Club arlenej@delphi.com 9 30s-50s 16 200+. BG Bruce Long & Georgeann Lorentz bruce@asu.edu 2 40s T17 180+. SS Sanford Stein sstein@is.rpslmc.edu 1 45 T17 180+. LB Lori Bailey baileyl@spot.colorado.edu 1 40 T17 180+. LE L'Equipe (Margaret Thomas & Denis Menard) 2 ?? aj627@freenet.carleton.ca T20 170+. CM Curt Miller, Steve Potter curt.miller@sen.ca.gov 2 46,48 T20 170+. TC Team Corning reynolds_ml@corning.com 6 various T22 160+. HT Howard Teitelbaum & Bonnie Teitelbaum 2 37,45 hat@floyd.att.com T22 160+ DG The Old Folks at DG cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com 4 various 24 140+. EH Hymie (Eric B. Hymowitz) hymie@lactose.smart.net 1 25 T25 120+. GC Gregory Chambers greg@poohs.com 1 42 T25 120+. GT The Genasys Team golq@genasys.com.au 5 various 27 100+. DE David A. Ewing dewing@avalanche.com 1 40 28 80+. AB Anthony Burgess burgess@fox.nstn.com 1 51 29 70.. AS Anton Sherwood dasher@netcom.com 1 35 30 60+. DO The Dutch Offials dot@xs4all.nl ? 20s/30s 31 40+. TP T.P.Uschanov tuschano@cc.helsinki.fi 1 ?? 32 20+. MM Marc Meltzer s1001118@jinx.umsl.edu 1 23 ---|-----|--|-----------------------------------------------------|----|------- Pos Score ID Name & E-mail address # on age(s) team The following table gives the individual scoring breakdown. A '-' is used to indicate that no guess was made for a question, whereas a zero indicates that a completely incorrect response was submitted. Song# 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 |--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|-- JL 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 JI 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 RS 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 IS 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 RR 20 20 0 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 PO 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 0 20 20 0 0 0 20 20 0 20 20 20 10 20 20 0 20 TA 20 0 0 20 0 20 20 0 0 20 20 0 0 0 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 0 0 10 EJ 20 - - 20 - 20 20 - - 20 20 20 0 - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - 20 10 OT 20 20 0 10 - 0 20 20 0 20 20 - - - 20 20 0 20 20 20 - 0 - 20 0 WM 20 - - - - 20 - - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - - 20 20 - - - - 10 TO 20 - - 20 - 20 20 - - 20 20 20 - - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - - - MF 20 - - 20 - 20 20 20 - 20 20 - - - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - - - RC 20 20 - - - 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 - - 20 20 - 20 - - - - - 20 - NK 20 20 20 20 - 20 - 20 - - 20 - - - 20 - - 20 20 20 0 - - - 10 DT 20 20 - 20 - - 20 - - 20 20 - - - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - - 0 BG 20 - - 20 - - 20 - - 20 20 20 - - 20 20 - 20 20 - - - - - - SS 20 - - 20 - 20 - - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - - - LB 20 - - - 20 20 20 - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - - 20 20 - - - - - LE 20 - - 20 - 20 20 - - 20 - - - - 20 20 - 0 20 20 - - - - - CM 20 - - 10 - - 20 - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - - - TC 20 - - 10 - 20 - - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - - - - HT 20 - - 20 - - 20 - - - 20 - - - 20 - - 20 20 20 - - - - - DG 20 - - 20 - - 20 - - 20 20 - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - - - - - EH 20 - - 20 - - - - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - - 20 20 - - - - - GC 20 - - 20 - - - - - - 20 - - - 20 - - - 20 20 - - - - - GT 20 - - - - - 20 - - 20 - - - - 20 0 - 20 20 - - - - - - DE 20 - - 20 - - - - - - 20 - - - - - - - 20 20 - - - - - AB 20 - - - - - - - - - 20 - - - 20 - - - 20 - - - - - - AS 20 - - - - - - - - - 20 - - - - - - - 10 20 - - - - - DO 20 - - - - - - - - - - 20 - - 20 - - - - - - - - - - TP 20 - - - 0 - - - - - - - - - - 0 - - 20 - - - - - 0 MM 20 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|-- 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 _______________________________________________________________________________ GOLDEN OLDIES LYRICS QUIZ #85 ANSWERS: Answers are in the form: #number) Artist: "Title" (year[s]) [peak pos. on Billboard Chart] {peak R&B} Well she was just seventeen You know what I mean And the way she looked was way beyond compare #01) Beatles: "I Saw Her Standing There" (1964) [14] {-} Howard Teitelbaum notes: Working title, when song was recorded on 11 Feb 1963, was "Seventeen." (This marathon recording session produced the remaining 10 songs for their debut LP, "Please Please Me"; the other 4 songs on the LP were their first 2 singles, "Love Me Do"/"P.S. I Love You" and "Please Please Me"/"Ask Me Why.") Editing (of takes 9 & 12) and stereo & mono mixes done on 25 Feb. In the McCartney interview in Marc Lewisohn's "Beatles Recording Sessions" book, Paul mentioned that his original 2nd line was "Never been a beauty queen," but John Lennon suggested the change to "You know what I mean." The EJ's add: Written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney; produced by George Martin. The B-side of the Beatles first #1 hit in the U.S., "I Want To Hold Your Hand." From the album "Meet The Beatles!" Pop singer Tiffany had a top #10 hit with her female version, "I Saw Him Standing There," in 1988. And finally, the Dutch Officials say that in the UK, the 'B' side of "I Want To Hold Your Hand" was "This Boy." Your lips on mine are soft as dew Your kiss is so divine Your eyes are like the skies of blue And stars that brightly shine Your voice is sweet like violins And warm like summer days #02) Brook Benton: "So Many Ways" (1959) [6] {1} Brook Benton was born Benjamin Franklin Peay in Camden, South Carolina in 1931. He died in 1988 of complications from spinal meningitis. We're going steady so long I never dreamed you would ever do me wrong I knew I was yours and I thought you were mine And that every little thing was so fine #03) Maxine Brown: "All In My Mind" (1960) [19] {2} Co-written by Maxine along with Fred Johnson and Leroy Kirkland. Born in Kingstree, South Carolina, Brown received some of her very important early training singing in the gospel groups Manhattans and Royaltones in NYC during the late 1950s. "All In My Mind" was her first charted hit. Johnson and Kirkland also teamed to write "Old Spanish Town" for the Bell Notes. You're always in our hearts And we bless you When you're not near to us We're blue #04) Carefrees: "We Love You Beatles" (1964) [39] {-} Several people pointed out that this song is a take off on "We Love You, Conrad" from the musical "Bye Bye Birdie." The EJ's add that it was the only hit for this British trio. The Delphi Trivia Club comments: this came out around the time when Beatle mania hit. "They didn't waste any time either: It hit the charts on March 21, 1964, the same day the Beatles achieved their second Number 1 hit. ("She Loves You.")" It's all a part of a little game that you cook up for me Trying to find out just how much you really mean to me If that's a reason for leavin' There's no reason to explain 'Cause baby I really need you Like the roses need the rain #05) Lou Christie: "How Many Teardrops" (1963) [46] {-} Written by Rick Rodell. Lou Christie was born Lugee Alfredo Giovanni Sacco near Pittsburgh, PA in 1943. He was raised in a home filled with music. While attending Moon Township High, he directed the school chorus and studied classical music. Before going solo, he was a member of the Crewnecks, the Classics, and led Lugee & the Lions. They say that all good things Must come to an end But girl it isn't true Each day with you I fall in love again #06) Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost: "Everyday With You Girl" (1969) [19] {-} Jamie notes it was written by lead guitarist James R. Cobb & producer Buddy "don't call me Baba" Buie. I'll add that they also teamed to write other Classics IV hits: "Stormy", "Soul Train", "Spooky" and "Traces." In addition, Cobb co-wrote "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy" for the Tams. Wild and wind blown That's how you've grown #07) Nat 'King' Cole: "Ramblin' Rose" (1962) [2] {7} Written by Noel and Joe Sherman. The EJ's note it was Cole's biggest hit in the rock era, it peaked at #2. With Belford Hendricks' Orchestra. Rick observes that it was #1 for 5 weeks on the Adult Contemporary charts. There's a little old house Where you can eat by candlelight And all the hip cats meet there every night They gotta red hot band that you can't beat And all the cornbread that you can eat #08) Dixiebelles: "Southtown U.S.A." (1964) [15] {-} Written by Billy Sherrill. The Dixiebelles, a female trio from Memphis, consisted of Shirley Thomas, Mary Hunt, and Mildred Pratcher. They were backed by pianist Jerry Smith. Oh how he dreams of his return And the comin' home he earned All his dreamin' was a waste There's a new face in his place She ain't waiting for you #09) 4 Seasons: "Toy Soldier" (1965) [64] {-} Jamie point out it was wriiten by Bob Gaudio & their producer Bob Crewe. With the Beatles' theme in mind, I'll mention that in 1964, Vee-Jay records repackaged some cuts from the 4 Seasons and Beatles and issued a two-record set titled "The Beatles versus The Four Seasons", but the album reached only number 142. It is now considered to be a valuable collector's item. Some letters tied in blue A photograph or two I see a rose from you #10) Connie Francis: "Among My Souvenirs" (1959) [7] {10} The EJ's comment: With the Ray Ellis Orchestra. A remake of a song that was a top 20 hit for four different artists, all in 1928: Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra (a #1 record); Ben Selvin & His Orchestra; Revelers; and Roger Wolfe Kahn & His Orchestra. Rick provides the following chart information from 1928: #03 Ben Selvin & His Orchestra #01 Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra (vocals: Jack Fulton-Charles Gaylord-Austin Young) #10 Revelers #12 Roger Wolfe Kahn & His Orchestra (vocals: Scrappy Lambert) On my way to better things I'll find myself some wings Distant roads are calling me #11) Guess Who: "No Time" (1969/70) [5] {-} Jamie notes it was written by lead singer Burton Cummings & lead guitar Randy Bachman. I'll mention that they also teamed to write other Guess Who hits: "American Woman", "Laughing" and "These Eyes." Writing a letter To make you feel better Sorry to hear that he left you that way I could have told ya That he was much older So much older than you #12) Hollies: "Dear Eloise" (1967) [50] {-} Jamie notes it was written by lead singer Allan Clarke & guitarists Tony Hicks & Graham Nash. We can't go on kissing like this I want you so When I'm with yoo-oou I know I know it's crazy but #13) Honeycombs: "I Can't Stop" (1964) [48] {-} Written by Howard Blaikley. The Honeycombs were an English rock quintet featuring lead singer Dennis d'Ell and drummer Ann "Honey" Lantree. This was their second and final charted song as a follow-up to their bigger hit "Have I The Right." When our flame of love was burning high We vowed our love would never die Seems your love for me has gone I wish I knew I hope I'm wrong #14) Donnie Owens: "Need You" (1958) [25] {-} Donnie Owens was born in Denver, Colorado in 1930. He played rhythm guitar on all of Duane Eddy's early hits. "Need You" was written by Buddy Wheeler, a musician and electronics buff, who played the electric bass for Eddy's hits and helped develop the guitarist's twangy sound by rebuilding his amps to a higher spec. Don't wanna silver dollar Rabbit's foot on a string My happiness and your warm caress No rabbit's foot can bring #15) Elvis Presley: "Good Luck Charm" (1962) [1] {-} Written by Aaron Schroeder and Wally Gold. The EJ's note it was a two-million seller. On the album "Elvis' Golden Records, Volume 3." Then one night her world was changed Her life and dreams were rearranged And she would never be the same again #16) Gary Puckett and the Union Gap: "This Girl Is A Woman Now" (1969) [9] {-} Singer/guitarist Gary Puckett was born in Hibbing, Minnesota. He formed The Union Gap in San Diego, California in 1967. I was wrong for oh so long my hope is strong You're willing (To changing your mind) Can't you stay don't go away from me I pray You'll listen: (Don't leave me behind) Take me back well it's a fact I promise that I'm giving (What we'd even done?) #17) Radiants: "Hold On" (1968) [68] {35} Written by Leonard Caston and Lloyd C. Webber. Although this song didn't make much of an impact on the national charts, it was pretty popular in my home town of Philadelphia, peaking at #03 regionally for two weeks in June/July 1968 according to WIBG "Big 30" surveys. Jyrki comments: The original Radiants group disbanded in 1966, when Maurice McAllister and Green McLauren left the group (they later recorded several excellent Southern Soul records as Maurice and Mac). However, Chess producer Billy Davis decided to form a new Radiants group from the remaining members of the Radiants and another disbanded group, the Confessions. It was this group that recorded "Hold On" as their third single. One time or other everybody listen to me You lose somebody you love But that's no reason for you to break down and cry #18) Tommy Roe: "Everybody" (1963) [3] {-} Jamie says it was written by Tommy and the EJ's add it was produced by Felton Jarvis. So I just did me some talkin' to the sun And I said I didn't like the way he got things done Sleepin' on the job #19) B.J. Thomas: "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" (1969) [1] {-} The EJ's comment: Thomas' first #1 and biggest hit, a million seller. From the movie "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"; writers Burt Bacharach and Hal David won an Oscar for best song for it. Bacharach originally offered the song to Ray Stevens, who turned it down. It is the most successful Bacharach record ever on the Billboard Hot 100. Jamie adds it was arranged by Burt and was on the charts for 22 weeks; It was also the 1969 Academy Awards' Song Of The Year. Dave Ewing observes it was played during the scene in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" when Paul Newman is doing tricks on the bicycle for Katherine Ross. Girl you better hide your hea-a-art Your loving heart #20) Three Dog Night: "Eli's Coming" (1969) [10] {-} Several people note that it was written by and first recorded by Laura Nyro. Nyro wrote many of the Fifth Dimension's hits including "Wedding Bell Blues", "Sweet Blindness", "Stoned Soul Picnic" and "Save The Country." I'm a toy soldier wounded in battle Boom boom boom boy You got me in the heart #21) Toys: "Baby Toys" (1966) [76] {-} Written by Tom De Cillis and Richard Layton. The Toys wee a soul trio from Woodrow Wilson High School in Jamaica, NY: Barbara Harris, June Montiero and Barbara Parritt. "Baby Toys" was their final charted hit. When the day seems to drag along And all that I do is working out wrong Still I find that I never cry As long as I know that you're standing by And all I've got to do is run to you #22) Tremeloes: "Even The Bad Times Are Good" (1967) [36] {-} The Tremeloes were a British pop-rock quartet consisting of Alan Blakely, Dave Munden, Ricky West and Len Hawkes. Group was originally formed by Brian Poole. Oh I'm standing on your doorstep and I don't know what to do Should I ring your doorbell or just walk away My friends all say that you were never true #23) Dionne Warwick: "Are You There (With Another Girl)" (1965/66) [39] {35} Written by Burt Bacharach & Hal David. For we've been told That a love like ours could never be So far apart They say we're so far apart And that we haven't the right To change our destiny #24) Lenny Welch: "Two Different Worlds" (1965) [61] {-} Welch was born in Asbury Park, New Jersey in 1938. Sweet Hawaiian miss And no more will I roam I must have your kiss And I can't go home You stole my heart from me Pretty rose of Waikiki #25) Andy Williams: "Lips Of Wine" (1957) [17] {-} Written by the songwriting team of Sy Soloway and Shirley Wolfe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TIE-BREAKERS: It's a-gettin' closer Goin' faster than a roller coaster Love like yours will Surely come my way A-hey a-hey hey #T1) Buddy Holly: "Everyday" (1957) {-} {-} Rick mentions it was recorded 5/27/57; released 9/20/57. The "B" side of "Peggy Sue." Written by Charles Hardin & Norman Petty. Howard and the EJ's mention James Taylor's cover charted in 1985. Joe Haertel notes that a book "Buddy Holly: A Biography" by Ellis Amburn has just been released and according to Joe, it's a 'smear job.' This is a story Of a boy and a girl Who tried to find happiness In an unfriendly world Two young lovers running away They don't care what people say They were told they were wrong for each other By her father By his mother #T2) Mystics: "Star Crossed Lovers" (1961) [-] {-} Written by Ted Cooper and Edward Zolas. The Mystics were a doo-wop group from the Bensonhurst section of Brooklyn, NY. They consisted of Al Cracolici, Joe Stroble, George Galfo and Bob Ferrante. Eddie Shotz joined the Mystics to sing lead on "Star Crossed Lovers." _______________________________________________________________________________ Themes: (1) The key to my major theme was song #01. The first letter of all the titles spell out "I SAW HER STANDING THERE - BEATLES" IDed by: JL, JI, IS, RS, RR, PO, RC. (2) Toy-Soldier mini-theme: #09,21. Not IDed by anyone. (3) Roses mini-theme: #05,07,10,25. IDed by: TA, PO. _______________________________________________________________________________ This chart ranks the songs/artists from most recognized to least recognized. The second number on the line denotes the avg. no. of points scored on that song (total points divided by number of entrants, to 1 decimal place). For comparison purposes, tie-breakers are scored here on the usual 20-point scale. Rank Avg. Song 1 20.0 01) Beatles: "I Saw Her Standing There" 2 19.4 T1) Buddy Holly: "Everyday" 3 17.8 19) BJ Thomas: "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" 4 17.5 15) Elvis Presley: "Good Luck Charm" 5 16.9 11) Guess Who: "No Time" 6 15.6 20) Three Dog Night: "Eli's Coming" 7 13.4 04) Carefrees: "We Love You Beatles" 8 13.1 16) Gary Puckett & the Union Gap: "This Girl Is A Woman Now" 9 12.5 18) Tommy Roe: "Everybody" 10 11.9 07) Nat 'King' Cole: "Ramblin' Rose" 11 11.6 06) Classics IV: "Everyday With You Girl" 12 10.6 10) Connie Francis: "Among My Souvenirs" T13 6.3 02) Brook Benton: "So Many Ways" T13 6.3 08) Dixiebelles: "Southtown USA" T13 6.3 12) Hollies: "Dear Eloise" 16 5.0 24) Lenny Welch: "Two Different Worlds" 17 4.5 25) Andy Williams: "Lips Of Wine" 18 4.4 22) Tremeloes: "Even The Bad Times Are Good" 19 4.1 21) Toys: "Baby Toys" T20 3.8 03) Maxine Brown: "All In My Mind" T20 3.8 09) 4 Seasons: "Toy Soldier" T20 3.8 23) Dionne Warwick: "Are You There (With Another Girl)" 23 3.4 T2) Mystics: "Star Crossed Lovers" 24 3.1 05) Lou Christie: "How Many Teardrops" 25 2.5 13) Honeycombs: "I Can't Stop" 26 1.9 17) Radiants: "Hold On" 27 0.6 14) Donnie Owens: "Need You" Observations: - I expected the following songs to do better: #22,23 and especially #09 -- I guess there aren't many other serious 4 Seasons fans out there :-( - I was surprised how highly recognized #04 is! - I'm disappointed that more people were not able to identify my major theme. _______________________________________________________________________________ Barry Silk barrys@cais.com