Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:05:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200205040105.VAA12272@TheWorld.com> Subject: CORRECTION(S) to RESULTS and ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #183 (GOLQ183) From: "Howard.Teitelbaum" RESULTS and ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #183 (GOLQ183) Congratulations to the Delphi Trivia Club and the Village Idiots, who tied for 1st place with near-perfect scores. Both teams missed only the first tie-breaker (which proved to be a complete stumper in this quiz). The Barry/Scooter/Jenny team earned sole possession of 3rd place, while Jamie Lubin and Ray LeBov tied for 4th/5th. Will McCorry finished 6th, and the EJ's and Really Rockin' in Boston shared 7th/8th. Eight additional teams, led by the Gypsy's Caravan, finished with 400+ points. Overall, the median score for the quiz was 415, and the mean was 377. Several folks noted that there were a number of songs in which a relatively obscure original preceded a better-known cover version. Although not intended as a quiz theme, this scenario is one I find particularly interesting, so perhaps I subconsciously favored songs of this type. As always, thanks to everyone who entered! _____________________________________________________________________________ After each score below are two characters representing the two tie-breakers: + indicates a tie-breaker answered correctly. - indicates partial credit. x indicates a totally incorrect guess. . indicates no guess. (For anti-spamming purposes, all occurrences of "@" in e-mail addresses have been replaced with "&".) Place ID # on Score Name team Age(s) ---+-----+--+------------------------------------------------------+--+------- T01 500.+ DE Delphi Trivia Club (Joan, Radar, Sunny, Nick, Hillary, Turk, Brenda, HQR) 9 35-50 T01 500x+ VI The Village Idiots (Andrew, Andy, Roxie, Doug) 4 <50 03 490.+ BS Barry Silk, Scooter Magruder, Jenny McCaw 3 40+ T04 480.+ JL Jamie Lubin 1 56 T04 480.+ RL Ray LeBov 1 ?? 06 470.+ WM Will McCorry 1 44 T07 460.+ EJ The EJ'S & Co.: Ellis, Jake, Steve, Kevin, Vinnie, Carlin, Mitch, Kim, Kyra 9 15+ T07 460x+ RR Really Rockin' In Boston 5 40s,50s 09 450x+ GY The Gypsy's Caravan 4 21+ 10 440.- LE L'Equipe (Peter & Sheila Cussons, Bob & Dee Harrold, Margaret Thomas and Denis Menard) 6 Avg. 50 11 420.+ MF Michael Flint 1 45rpm 12 419.+ OF The Old Folks at EMC 4 various T13 410x+ AS Team Asia (Barry Chamish, Mitch Herczeg, Arie Gamliel) 3 48-50 T13 410.+ RP Randy Price 1 50 15 407.+ TC Team Corning 5 various 16 400.+ CO The Coasters (Rick & Kathy Schubert, Marc Dashevsky, 5 49,53,50, Norm Katuna, Bigfoot Mae) 56,- 17 390.. MW Mike Weaver 1 55 18 310.+ NA NAVAIRHEADS (Tom and "The Falk") 2 55,50 19 310.. RS Ron & Sally Crandall 2 51,50 20 230.. SS Sanford Stein 1 51 21 220.+ JP Jyrki Ilva & Pekka Halonen 2 34,34 22 160.. JR Jessica Raine 1 28 23 140.+ BT Bonnie Teitelbaum 1 52 24 80.. MA Matthew A. 1 14 ---+-----+--+------------------------------------------------------+--+------- Place ID # on Score Name team Age(s) ______________________________________________________________________________ The following table gives the individual scoring breakdown. For songs 01-25, a '.' is used to indicate that no guess was made for a question, whereas a zero indicates that a completely incorrect response was submitted. For tie-breakers (songs T1 & T2), a "+" indicates full credit, a "-" indicates partial credit, an "x" indicates an incorrect guess, and a "." indicates no guess. Song# TT ID 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 12 --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-- DE 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ VI 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ BS 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ JL 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ RL 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ WM 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ EJ 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ RR 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 x+ GY 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 10 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 x+ LE 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 .- MF 20 20 20 20 20 . . 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ OF 9 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 . 20 20 10 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 20 .+ AS 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 10 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 0 x+ RP 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 . 20 20 10 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 0 20 .+ TC 20 20 20 10 20 18 10 20 20 20 . 10 20 10 20 10 20 20 . 20 19 20 20 20 20 .+ CO 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 . . 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 .+ MW 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 20 . . 20 20 20 20 20 . 20 . 20 20 20 20 20 . .. NA . 20 20 20 . . 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 10 20 20 . 20 0 20 20 . . 20 . .+ RS 20 20 20 . . . . . 20 . . 20 20 10 20 20 . 20 20 20 20 . 20 20 20 .. SS . 20 20 . . . . 10 20 . . 20 . 10 20 10 . . 20 20 20 . 0 20 20 .. JP 20 20 . . 20 20 . . 20 . . 20 . 20 . 20 . . . . 20 20 . . 20 .+ JR . 20 20 10 . . . 10 10 . . 20 . . . 10 . 20 . . . . 20 20 . .. BT . 20 20 . . . . . 20 . . 20 . . 20 20 . . . . 20 . . . . .+ MA . 20 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . 20 . . . . . 20 . . . . .. --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-- ID 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 12 Song# TT ______________________________________________________________________________ GOLDEN OLDIES LYRICS QUIZ #183 ANSWERS: Answers are in the form: #number) Artist: "Title" (year) [peak Pop] {peak R&B} where: "peak Pop" = Peak position achieved on the weekly Billboard Pop chart "peak R&B" = Peak position on the weekly Billboard Rhythm & Blues chart == NOTE: Recordings charting between late 1963 and early 1965 == show a "peak R&B" of {n/c}, meaning "no chart," as Billboard == didn't publish an R&B chart from 11/30/63 thru 1/23/65. All comments in brackets are mine, unless preceded by a two-letter entrant ID. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Until we kissed, I never knew the thrills that could be tasted Until we kissed, I never knew the years that I had wasted But now I know I was waiting for you to come by I was waiting, girl, won't you please tell me why This took so long to begin #01) Arthur Alexander: "Where Have You Been (All My Life)" (1962) [58] {-} [A Barry Mann / Cynthia Weil composition.] I say "high" You say "low" You say "why" And I say "I don't know" #02) The Beatles: "Hello Goodbye" (1967/68) [1] {-} [Paul's composition (officially, of course, "Lennon/McCartney"), recorded during October/November 1967, with the original working title of "Hello Hello." In both the U.K. and U.S. markets, released as a single in November '67 b/w "I Am the Walrus." In the U.S., it was included as part of the "Magical Mystery Tour" LP at the same time. In the U.K., only the 6 songs from the "Magical Mystery Tour" TV special were released (as a double-EP), so "Hello Goodbye" was not released on LP in the U.K. until various compilations in the '70s.] Walk me down the lane where shadows Will be (will be), will be (will be) Hiding lovers just the same as we'll be, we'll be When you make me tell you I love you #03) Mel Carter: "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me" (1965) [8] {-} [Previously used in GOLQ #39. Originally a hit for Karen Chandler in 1952/53; also recorded in 1953 by The Orioles.] I guess when you met me It was just one of those things But don't you ever bet me 'Cause I'm gonna be true if you let me #04) Ray Charles: "Come Rain or Come Shine" (1960,1968) [83,98] {-,-} [Originally a hit in 1946, both for Margaret Whiting and for Helen Forrest & Dick Haymes. The song was from the Broadway musical "St. Louis Woman."] JR:[Written by Harold Arlen ... It's a jazz standard that was recorded by just about everyone.] When I think about how she do me The tears fall down like rain, like rain When I think about how she do me The tears fall down like rain, like rain When I think I got her chained down She starts actin' up again #05) Sam Cooke: "Somebody Have Mercy" (1962) [70] {3} [B-side of "Nothing Can Change this Love" (pop #12).] I'd like to tell you somethin' all about the good and the bad I wish today the world, my friends, would stop bein' sad There's so much evil 'round us, I feel that I could die #06) Dion: "(I Was) Born to Cry" (1962) [42] {-} [Written by Dion; B-side of "Lovers Who Wander" (pop #3).] Cuddle up and don't be blue All your fears are foolish fancies, maybe You know, dear, that I'm in love with you #07) Tommy Edwards: "My Melancholy Baby" (1959) [26] {27} [The Marcels' 1962 version was used in GOLQ #119. Song was originally a hit in 1915 for Walter Van Brunt; subsequent hit versions by Gene Austin (1928), Al Bowlly (1935), Teddy Wilson & His Orch. (featuring Ella Fitzgerald; 1936), Bing Crosby (1939), and Sam Donohue & His Orch. (1947).] My love, I was wrong To try to love two Knowing well that my love Was just for you #08) The Gladiolas: "Little Darlin" (1957) [41] {11} [The better-known cover by The Diamonds was used in GOLQ #9. Written by The Gladiolas' lead singer Maurice Williams, who later founded Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs (of "Stay" fame).] I lost at love before Gave up, and closed the door But you said "Try just once more" #09) Brenda Holloway: "You've Made Me So Very Happy" (1967) [39] {40} [The more-successful Blood, Sweat & Tears cover (1969) was used in GOLQ #3. Slight lyrical difference: Whereas Brenda "gave up," BS&T "got mad." Also a minor hit for Lou Rawls in 1970.] The only time I'm happy Is when you're on my mind Every day I live More of my love to you I give I've been a thousand places Seen you spout on a thousand faces #10) The Isley Brothers: "I Guess I'll Always Love You" (1966) [61] {31} I searched a long, long time To find a girl and peace of mind I picked you out, I thought you were right You kept me cryin' day and night #11) Ernie K-Doe: "I Cried My Last Tear" (1961) [69] {-} Got to know how to pony Like Bony Moronie You gotta know how to twist Goes like this #12) Chris Kenner: "Land of 1000 Dances" (1963) [77] {-} [Written by Kenner. Cover by Cannibal & The Headhunters (1965) was used in GOLQ #20. Also covered by Thee Midniters (1965), Wilson Pickett (1966; the only Top-10 version), The Electric Indian (1969), and the J. Geils Band (1983).] You get me upset Why make me remember What I want to forget? I've been lonely, lonely too long #13) Brenda Lee: "Emotions" (1960/61) [7] {-} [Previously used in GOLQ #62. "Little Miss Dynamite" was a 2002 inductee into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.] Got a girl named Lucinda We call her the great pretender Got a girl named Lucinda We call her the great pretender #14) Little Richard: "Bama Lama Bama Loo" (1964) [82] {n/c} [Song borrows heavily from Richard's first hit, "Tutti-Frutti" ("I got a girl named Sue ...").] You oughta know by now You oughta know, you oughta know by now #15) The Mamas & The Papas: "Words of Love" (1966/67) [5] {-} [Previously used in GOLQ #73. Mono (single) mix is noticeably different from the stereo LP mix.] I said, "Baby, it's for sure I've got the fever, you've got the cure" #16) The Olympics: "Good Lovin'" (1965) [81] {-} [The #1 cover by The Young Rascals (1966) was used in GOLQs #7 & #123.] God made the world, and he made it round I got my baby, and I'm glad I found Her love was meant for me And my baby she'll always be #17) Carl Perkins: "Your True Love" (1957) [67] {-} [Written by Perkins. The B-side, also credited to Carl, is his original version of "Matchbox" (most notably covered by The Beatles in '64). This was not entirely an original composition, as "Matchbox" was based on Blind Lemon Jefferson's 1927 recording of "The Matchbox Blues."] LE,OF:[Also recorded by Ricky Nelson.] Every time that you're near All my cares disappear Darling, you're all that I'm livin' for #18) Elvis Presley: "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You" (1956) [1] {3} [Previously used in GOLQ #47.] I'm sick and tired of your lies, tellin' me that you're good When you're goin' out with guys from your old neighborhood I've got news for you and I'm-a not kiddin' 'round Pack up your bags and-a get out of town #19) The Regents: "Runaround" (1961) [28] {30} [Previously used in GOLQ #42.] I don't know what it looks like Or what it can do I keep looking for that ... #20) Sam the Sham and The Pharaohs: "Ring Dang Doo" (1965) [33] {-} [Their 3rd charted single, sounding remarkably like their 1st ("Wooly Bully") and 2nd ("Ju Ju Hand"). Norm Katuna of The Coasters team noted that the 3rd line above should actually be "I got to find that ..."] Never, ever leave me Because it would grieve me My heart told me so #21) Millie Small: "My Boy Lollipop" (1964) [2] {n/c} [Previously used in GOLQ #29. Originally recorded by Barbie Gaye in 1957. Millie's version featured a then-unknown Rod Stewart on harmonica.] You can blame me Try to shame me And still I'll care for you You can run around Even put me down Still I'll be there for you #22) Irma Thomas: "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is (Will Understand)" (1964) [52] {n/c} Say you will Will be mi-i-ine Forever and always #23) Doris Troy: "Just One Look" (1963) [10] {3} [The Hollies cover (1964, re-released in '67) was used in GOLQ #1. Also recorded by Anne Murray (1974) and Linda Ronstadt (1979).] I walk along the street we used to walk Two by two, lovers pass And as they're passing by I could die 'Cause you're not here with me #24) Bobby Vinton: "Blue On Blue" (1963) [3] {-} [Previously used in GOLQ #44. A Hal David / Burt Bacharach composition.] If you're gonna give me good kisses like that (What?) Honey, don't you know I'm gonna give 'em right back? (So, give it!) #25) Dinah Washington & Brook Benton: "A Rockin' Good Way (To Mess Around and Fall in Love)" (1960) [7] {1} [Previously used in GOLQ #28. Co-written by Brook, but originally recorded by Priscilla Bowman with The Spaniels (1958).] LE:[Also recorded by Shakin' Stevens and Bonnie Tyler.] ------------ Tie-breakers: ------------ He wanted me to take a ride with him But I was independent and I told him "no" Some other girl said "yes," and she's with him #T1) The Curls: "Why Didn't I Go?" (1960) [-] {-} [Duo comprised Sue Singleton and Susan Terry. Their only foray into the Hot-100 chart was as backing vocalists for Paul Evans on "Seven Little Girls Sitting in the Back Seat." For that song, they were hired (along with Paul) by songwriters Bob Hilliard & Lee Pockriss to record a demo, which wound up being released "as is," peaking at #9. At the time, Sue & Sue were members of the Ray Charles Singers (remember, that's the non- funky Ray Charles!). The duo then released a pair of singles on Everest (neither of which charted), of which this was the first. "Why Didn't I Go" is clearly intended as a followup to "Seven Little Girls ...," with very similar arrangements. This song and the B-side, "Imaginez Vous," were both Hilliard/Pockriss compositions. Their second Everest single was "He's My Hero" b/w "Like a Waterfall." By the way, much of the preceding info was graciously provided to me by Paul Evans himself, in response to my inquiry. Check out Paul's website at "www.paulevans.com".] Voices leaking from a sad cafe Smiling faces try to understand I saw a shadow touch a shadow's hand #T2) Simon & Garfunkel: "Bleecker Street" (1964) [-] {n/c} [A Paul Simon composition; from their debut album, "Wednesday Morning, 3 AM." For those not from the Big Apple, Bleecker St. is within the neighborhood of Greenwich Village, the site of New York's early-'60s folk-music scene.] _____________________________________________________________________________ The following table ranks the songs from most recognized to least recognized. The first column indicates the average number of points scored on that song (total points divided by number of entrants). For comparison purposes, tie-breakers are scored here on the usual 20-point scale. Avg. Song ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20.00 #02) The Beatles: "Hello Goodbye" (1967/68) [1] {-} 19.58 #12) Chris Kenner: "Land of 1000 Dances" (1963) [77] {-} 19.13 #21) Millie Small: "My Boy Lollipop" (1964) [2] {n/c} 18.75 #09) Brenda Holloway: "You've Made Me So Very Happy" (1967) [39] {40} 18.33 #03) Mel Carter: "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me" (1965) [8] {-} 18.33 #15) The Mamas & The Papas: "Words of Love" (1966/67) [5] {-} 17.50 #16) The Olympics: "Good Lovin'" (1965) [81] {-} 16.67 #18) Elvis Presley: "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You" (1956) [1] {3} 16.67 #20) Sam the Sham and The Pharaohs: "Ring Dang Doo" (1965) [33] {-} 16.67 #24) Bobby Vinton: "Blue On Blue" (1963) [3] {-} 15.83 #23) Doris Troy: "Just One Look" (1963) [10] {3} 15.63 #T2) Simon & Garfunkel: "Bleecker Street" (1964) [-] {n/c} 15.38 #01) Arthur Alexander: "Where Have You Been (All My Life)" (1962) [58] {-} 15.00 #04) Ray Charles: "Come Rain or Come Shine" (1960,1968) [83,98] {-,-} 15.00 #05) Sam Cooke: "Somebody Have Mercy" (1962) [70] {3} 15.00 #13) Brenda Lee: "Emotions" (1960/61) [7] {-} 15.00 #25) Dinah Washington & Brook Benton: "A Rockin' Good Way (To Mess Around and Fall in Love)" (1960) [7] {1} 14.58 #08) The Gladiolas: "Little Darlin" (1957) [41] {11} 14.58 #14) Little Richard: "Bama Lama Bama Loo" (1964) [82] {n/c} 12.92 #07) Tommy Edwards: "My Melancholy Baby" (1959) [26] {27} 12.50 #10) The Isley Brothers: "I Guess I'll Always Love You" (1966) [61] {31} 12.50 #22) Irma Thomas: "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is (Will Understand)" (1964) [52] {n/c} 11.67 #17) Carl Perkins: "Your True Love" (1957) [67] {-} 11.58 #06) Dion: "(I Was) Born to Cry" (1962) [42] {-} 10.00 #19) Regents, The: "Runaround" (1961) [28] {30} 3.33 #11) Ernie K-Doe: "I Cried My Last Tear" (1961) [69] {-} 0.00 #T1) The Curls: "Why Didn't I Go?" (1960) [-] {-} * These songs were MORE recognized than I expected: 16.67 #20) Sam the Sham and The Pharaohs: "Ring Dang Doo" (1965) [33] {-} 15.38 #01) Arthur Alexander: "Where Have You Been (All My Life)" (1962) [58] {-} * These songs were LESS recognized than I expected: 11.58 #06) Dion: "(I Was) Born to Cry" (1962) [42] {-} 10.00 #19) Regents, The: "Runaround" (1961) [28] {30} _____________________________________________________________________________ -- Howard Teitelbaum Howard.Teitelbaum&gd-ais.com