Date: 5 Mar 2014 05:09:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20140305050950.40250.qmail@nezumi.pair.com> From: Regina Litman <golq324@golq.org> Subject: RESULTS and ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz 324 (GOLQ324) RESULTS & ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #324 (GOLQ324) Congratulations to the Delphi Trivia Club, who took first place in this quiz with a score of 490++. Close behind were the Village Idiots with 486++. That's right--there were no perfect scores, even though I tried to make this a fairly simple quiz. The artist names for #17, #19, and #23 and the title of #17 were given in incomplete form by some entries, but even if I did not grade these strictly, there would still have been no perfect scores. This quiz had no real theme, but I put in a few personal mini-themes. 1. Hit vs. Hip (or Hip vs. Hit): In the late 1990s and early 2000s, when I participated actively in Usenet oldies newsgroups (which can now be found in Google Groups), I introduced the concept of "hit vs. hip" (or maybe it was "hip vs. hit"). This was a song that was originally released on an album by an artist that was generally at least as famous for their albums as their singles. The song was also written by the artist, or if the artist was a group, by one or more members of the group. Around the same time, the song was then covered by another artist generally known more for its singles than its albums and became at least a moderate- sized hit for this artist. However, over the years, the album ("hip") version by the original artist has become more famous than the sometimes all-but- forgotten "hit" single version. This GOLQ contains two such songs from the 1960s, which coincidentally appear consecutively. I also included another song I have put into this category, even though the "hit" version predated the album release of the "hip" version, and the "hip" album version was eventually released as a single and became a bigger hit than the "hit" version (at least in the U.S.). This GOLQ also includes another song whose history reminds me of a "hit vs. hip" situation, although it does not actually fit the requirements. For instance, it was not written by the artist whose version is the better- remembered one today. 2. Word association: Sometime in 1965, I came up with the following--The 4 Seasons did "Rag Doll." The Rag Dolls did "Dusty." Dusty (Springfield) did "Guess Who?". The Guess Who did "Shakin' All Over." I included the first three of these songs and the group for the fourth one, but I chose one of their later songs to avoid having too many songs from the same time period. There are a few other word/name similarities that are intentional. 3. Unintended themes: a. Competing covers: Songs #03, #04, #06, #11, #16, and #22 all had at least one competing cover version on the chart at the same time. #21 was one of three versions of this song to reach the Hot 100 in 1968, but while the other two were competing covers with each other, this one was released several months later. b. Vito & the Salutations: "Nos. 1, 4, and 19 kind of have a jungle theme." GOLQ324's mean score was 404.23, and the median was 474. My thanks to everyone who participated. Howard Teitelbaum has posted GOLQ325, and this is so late that Tom and Rick (the NAVAIRHEADS) may have already posted GOLQ326. -- Regina Litman <golq324@golq.org> Replace all occurrences of "&" in all e-mail addresses with "@". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tie Breaker Scoring Key + after numeric score below indicates a tie-breaker answered correctly. - indicates partial credit. x indicates a totally incorrect guess. . indicates no guess. # on Pos Score ID Name and E-mail address Team Age(s) ---+-----+--+------------------------------------------------------+---+------- 01 490++ DT Delphi Trivia Club <rcwkid99&rochester.rr.com> 6 45+ 02 486++ VI The Village Idiots <Roxie1971&aol.com> 5 (Roxanne, Doug, Michael, Andrew, Andy) 03 480++ EJ The EJ'S & Co.: Ellis, Jean, Vinnie, Kevin, Everett, 8 27+ Kyra, Denise, Norm <brombere&matc.edu> 04 480+. WM Will McCorry <wmccorry&ns.sympatico.ca> 1 56 05 479+. RR Really Rockin' In Boston <rardini&cox.net> 7 50s,60s 06 476+. NA NAVAIRHEADS <tompillion&comcast.net> 1 67 07 474.+ MW Mike Weaver <oldtunes&sbcglobal.net> 1 08 472++ JF John Fox <FourHbcaps&aol.com> 1 62 09 452++ LB Vito & the Salutations <baileyl&colorado.edu> 5-6 boomers 10 400.. CO The Coasters (Rick & Kathy Schubert, Magic Marc, 4 61-64 Bigfoot Mae) <rns&san.rr.com> 11 380+. TT Team Teitelbaum (Howard, Bonnie, Patty, Pat) 4 51-64 <hat_pat&yahoo.com> 12 166+. JR Jessica Raine <jraine&bostonconservatory.edu> 1 39 13 20.. BS Bryan Shailer <bryanshailer&rogers.com> 1 50 ---+-----+--+------------------------------------------------------+---+------- Pos Score ID Name and E-mail address # on Age(s) Team The following table gives the individual scoring breakdown. A '-' is used to indicate that no guess was made for a question, whereas a zero indicates that a completely incorrect response was submitted. 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Later, they started their own label, Brother. This was their second charting single and their first one on Capitol, following "Surfin'" on Candix. Their first charting release on Brother was "Heroes and Villains" in 1967, but the re- mainder of their 1960s Hot 100-charting releases were also on Capitol. The other Capital "Bea" group is also in the GOLQ, in the tie-breakers section. Someone really loves you #02) Belvin, Jesse: "Guess Who" (1959) [31] {7} In late 1964 or early 1965, I heard "Guess Who?" by Dusty Springfield on the radio, but I only heard it once or twice, and it didn't stick with me. Later, after I learned that she loved American R&B music and after I became familiar with this song, I wondered if the Dusty Springfield song was a remake of this one. In the 1990s, when I got a Dusty Springfield box set, I discovered that hers was a different song and has a question mark at the end of the title. But when I decided to use Dusty's song as a tie-breaker in this GOLQ, I decided to use Jesse Belvin's "Guess Who," too. The EJ'S & Co.: Jesse Belvin with Shorty Rogers and his Orchestra and Chorus And he sees the cattle grazin' Where a century before Santa Anna's guns were blazin' And the cannons used to roar #03) Bud and Travis: "Ballad of the Alamo" (1960) [64] {-} A high school teacher mentioned this duo's name once in class. I thought this was the duo that did the song "Tell Him No" that I heard on the radio as an oldie sometimes. But that duo turned out to be the similarly-named Travis and Bob. One thing that Bud and Travis and Travis and Bob had in common is that each duo only had one Hot 100 song. This GOLQ includes both of them. This song, which was from the movie THE ALAMO starring John Wayne, lost a competing covers battle with one by Marty Robbins, which peaked at #34. Both songs entered the Hot 100 the week of 10/17/1960. Thanks to Bryan Shailer for bringing the Marty Robbins version to my attention. Bud and Travis (both now deceased) were Oliver "Bud" Dashiell and Travis Edmonson. They were from San Francisco. [voice 1] And meanwhile back in the States [voice 2] Baby, baby, let's make romance You know your old time lover Hasn't got a chance #04) Cadets, The: "Stranded in the Jungle" (1956) [15] {4} I think that the 1970s song "Your Mama Don't Dance" by Loggins and Messina may have been influenced by this song. It was the highest peaking version of three that were released in 1956. The Jayhawks took it to #18 and the Gadabouts to #39. The Gadabouts' version appears to be the "white cover" of this R&B hit. The Jayhawks did a new version in 1961 under the name of the Vibrations, but that one only reached #117 on the Bubbling Under chart. Along came McDonald with his trusty gun And he goes [five drum beats] Everybody run #05) Dee Jay and the Runaways: "Peter Rabbit" (1966) [45] {-} Young enough to dance and sing Old enough to get that swing #06) Draper, Rusty: "Seventeen" (1955) [18] {-} This was the lowest peaking of three competing covers in its year of release, but it's the only version of this song with which I was familiar before doing this GOLQ. Just as a high school teacher brought Bud and Travis to my attention, a college teacher mentioned and played part of this recording for us. The Fontane Sisters went to #3 and Boyd Bennett to #5. Frankie Ford remade it in 1961 but only got as high as #72. The EJ'S & Co.: Rusty Draper, Orchestra Conducted by David Carroll Doing things I used to do They think are new I sit and watch #07) Faithfull, Marianne: "As Tears Go By" (1964/65) [22] {-} This song is on my "hit vs. hip" list even though it preceded the Rolling Stones' album version, and their eventual single release went to #6 in 1966. It was written by group members Mick Jagger and Keith Richard plus their manager Andrew Loog Oldham. When she was just a kid Her clothes were hand-me-downs #08) 4 Seasons, The: "Rag Doll" (1964) [1] {-} On many of the 4 Seasons' hit songs, the correct artist name turns out to be The 4 Seasons Featuring the "Sound" of Frankie Valli. That is not the case for this one. Some entries were received with this artist name, for which I gave full credit, which was my prerogative. I go alone now Calling your name After losing at the game You took me by surprise #09) Guess Who, The: "Laughing" (1969) [10] {-} I chose this song instead of "Shakin' All Over" because I wanted to repre- sent their bigger hit-making period of the later 1960s, plus there were no other 1969 songs in this GOLQ. When the group recorded "Shakin' All Over" in 1965, it was called Chad Allan & the Expressions, but their Canadian record company, Quality, credited the single only to Guess Who to build a mystique around it and to make some listeners think that they were better-known performers masquerading under a synomym. This strategy actually worked less than a year later for the 4 Seasons when they used the name The Wonder Who. The Quality Records move may have been influenced by an earlier release, "Roses Are Red (My Love)" by The You Know Who Group, which turned out to be another unknown group. Chad Allan was the lead singer on "Shakin' All Over," but he was gone from the group by the time they really made it big, with lead vocals handled by Burton Cummings. Another well-known member of the group was Randy Bachman, who was around for both "Shakin' All Over" and the beginning of their later successful period before leaving to start his own group, Bachman-Turner Overdrive (BTO) in the 1970s. "Shakin' All Over" by the Guess Who has taken on a new life in television markets that serve New Jersey (including Philadelphia), where it is heard in a commercial for one of the newly-legalized online casinos. I got no deeds to do No promises to keep Dappled and drowsy and ready to sleep Let the morning time drop all its petals on me #10) Harpers Bizarre: "The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)" (1967) [13] {-} Team Teitelbaum: "Simon & Garfunkel's original appeared in '66 on the PARSLEY, SAGE, ROSEMARY AND THYME LP, and in '67 as the B-side of "At the Zoo." The structure in question, also known as the Queensboro Bridge, was formally renamed the Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge in 2010, in honor of the former (now late) New York City mayor." This song was written by Paul Simon. It's the Simon & Garfunkel version that is heard and remembered today, thus making it a "hit vs. hip" song. Every entry that identified this song gave both parts of the title, so no points needed to be deducted. The third line in the Simon and Garfunkel version of this song begins with "I'm dappled...." Another bridge in the New York City area, the George Washington Bridge, has been in the headlines lately due to a lane-closure incident involving New Jersey officials. A radio personality did a parody to the tune of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxMJmTTJ-MQ I shouldn't hang around Actin' like her brother In a few more years They'd call us right for each other And why If I wait I'll just die #11) Hondells, The: "Younger Girl" (1966) [52] {-} Team Teitelbaum: "Written by John Sebastian; originally a track on The Lovin' Spoonful's '65 debut LP, DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC. Covers by The Hondells and The Critters charted concurrently in spring '66." This is another "hit vs. hip" song. The Lovin' Spoonful's version is the one that's heard and remembered today. The Lovin' Spoonful are not generally remembered for their albums, unlike some of the other artists of the "hip" songs, but some of their non-single songs, including this one, "Younger Generation," "Didn't Want To Have To Do It," and "Jug Band Music," have endured over the years. They were "hip" enough to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2000. The Critters' version peaked at #42. In this case, the two covers cancelled themselves out, as neither was a huge hit, which could be the real reason why the Lovin' Spoonful's version is best remembered. I chose the Hondells' version for a few reasons: 1. It had never been used in a GOLQ before, while the Critters' version had been. 2. I don't think I'd ever heard it before, so it gave me a good excuse to finally hear it. I like it a lot, but I prefer the one by the Critters. I read somewhere once that the Critters' version was played on the radio mainly in the eastern U.S., where I lived, while the Hondells' was played mainly in the west. This makes sense, because the Critters were from New Jersey, and the Hondells were from California (although touring member Ritchie Burns attended Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School in the Washington, DC, area). 3. I had recently watched BEACH BLANKET BINGO (my last-ever video from Blockbuster before they closed down), and the Hondells perform in this movie, although they didn't do this song. John Fox on the Critters' version: "Lead vocals by Don Ciccone, who was in the 1970s version of Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons.he did the really high part on 'December, 1963 (Oh What A Night).'. I still love you Just like I did before But before you smile And walk through the door #12) Jackson, Chuck: "I Don't Want To Cry" (1961) [36] {5} I am more familiar with the 1970 version by Ronnie Dyson, which reached #50. A version by Ruby Winters went to #97 in 1969. Mama turned off the front porch light Sayin', "Come in daughter. That's enough for tonight." #13) Lee, Brenda "Sweet Nothin's" (1959/60) [4] {12} I included a Brenda Lee song in this GOLQ in order to add to my list of songs from GOLQ320 that contain phone numbers. I learned shortly after I put that list together that her first single in 1956, as Little Brenda Lee, was "Bigelow 6-200." Back then, in some areas, phone numbers were only comprised of the two-letter exchange abbreviation plus 4 (instead of 5) digits. You can hear it and read more information about it (including some history of phone number representations made by someone using the user name rslitman) at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_9XGZnp0U The other phone number songs that I mentioned in GOLQ320 are "Beechwood 4-5789" by the Marvelettes, "634-5789" by Wilson Pickett, "Pennsylvania 6-5000" by Glenn Miller (pre-GOLQ era), and "867-5309/Jenny" by Tommy Tutone (post-GOLQ era). He'll always be my true love, my true love, my true love From now until forever, forever, forever #14) March, Little Peggy: "I Will Follow Him" (1963) [1] {1} Unlike Brenda Lee, Peggy March kept the "Little" in front of her name during the charting portion of her career. She was born Margaret Battivo in Lansdale, PA, which is an outlying suburb of Philadelphia. He rolled his big sleeves up And a brand new world began He created a woman And-a lots of lovin' for a man #15) McDaniels, Gene: "A Hundred Pounds Of Clay" (1961) [3] {11} I remember when I was down I was lost But I've been found #16) Pozo-Seco Singers: "I Can Make It With You" (1966) [32] {-} This song proved to be the most difficult non-tie-breaker. I have recently rediscovered the Pozo-Seco Singers as a result of hearing this song on the Ace CD WILD THING: THE SONGS OF CHIP TAYLOR. Although this was tied with "Look What You've Done" as their highest-charting single, they are probably best-remembered for their next-highest peaking one, "Time," which only reached #47, earlier in 1966. The members of the Pozo-Seco Singers were Don Williams, Susan Taylor, and Lofton Kline. Williams became a major country star whose 1980 single "I Believe In You" was his biggest crossover success, reaching #24. Susan Taylor, unlike Mary Travers of Peter, Paul, and Mary, played guitar just like the two men in the group, as well as contributing vocals. She continues to perform today under the name of Taylor Pie. She sang lead on "Time." One or both of the men sings lead on this song, although I'm not sure if the bridge portion that I used for this quiz is sung by her or in a falsetto by one of the men. Taylor Pie is featured in several YouTube videos. Here is one in which she sings "Time," from her own channel, puffbunnyrecordsinc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSA54NRAHrQ Chip Taylor (born James Wesley Voight) wrote several hits in the 1960s. It's unfortunate that he is best-remembered for the simplistic "Wild Thing," because he wrote a lot more serious songs. His second-best-known song is probably "Angel of the Morning." He is the brother of actor Jon Voight. He wrote this one with Jackie DeShannon in mind to record it, which she eventually did. In fact, it turns out to have been a competing cover with the Pozo-Seco Singers version, peaking at #68. Baby let me be around you every night Run your fingers through my hair And cuddle me real tight #17) Presley, Elvis with The Jordanaires: "(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear" (1957) [1] {1} Including the song commonly known just as "Teddy Bear" n the same GOLQ as the song called "Rag Doll" and the group called the Rag Dolls was purely coincidental. This record was reissued in 1978 and reached #105 on the Bubbling Under chart. John Fox: "Written by Philadelphians Kal Mann and Bernie Lowe.a rare hit for them not on their own Cameo or Parkway labels." Give me a chance To be more than a summer romance to you All the letters you'd promised to write Won't help me on a cold winter's night #18) Rag Dolls, The: "Dusty" (1965) [55] {-} Although this was not an answer song to "Rag Doll," their earlier single, "Society Girl" (#91 in 1964), was. I never heard or even heard of "Society Girl" until the 1990s. And I'll admit I wasn't very smart So I went out and found myself a guy that's so much wiser And he taught me the way to win your heart #19) Seville, David, The Music of: "Witch Doctor" (1958) [1] {-} David Seville is best-remembered as the creator of the Chipmunks. This song has some of the high-pitched singing that was later used by Alvin, Theodore, and Simon. A high-tech version is performed in the movie ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS. Jessica Raine: "Memorably performed on THE MUPPET SHOW by Marvin Suggs and the Muppaphones, an octet of adorable fuzzy balls with eyes who screamed on different pitches when Marvin whacked them with a hammer." Go ahead and wreck your health (hmm) Go play your hand You big talkin' man Make a big fool of yourself #20) Sinatra, Nancy, and Lee Hazlewood: "Jackson" (1967) [14] {-} Another Ace CD from their songwriters series, THE LEIBER & STOLLER STORY VOL. 3 SHAKE 'EM UP & LET 'EM ROLL 1962-1969, introduced me to a version of this song by Johnny Cash and June Carter a few years ago. Shortly after that, I heard their version in the 2011 movie, THE HELP. The song was actually written by Leiber and country singer Billy Edd Wheeler. This is the song that I alluded to above whose history reminds me of that of a "hit vs. hip" song. The Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood recording was a Top 20 hit on the Billboard Hot 100 and was the only version of this song that I ever knew for almost 45 years. Then, in the early 2010s, I came across it on the just-mentioned CD and heard it in THE HELP. The renewed popularity of this other version has made people forget the pop chart hit version, similar to what happened to the "hit" versions in the "hit vs. hip" categorizations. Even the Wikipedia entry for this song noted that the most famous version is the Cash-Carter one with which I have only become familiar recently, while not even mentioning the Sinatra-Hazlewood Top- Twenty U.S. pop hit at all. I took it upon myself to edit this entry to give the pop hit version equal billing with the other one. I did find out, though, that the version that I didn't discover until a few years ago was a #2 country hit a few months before the Sinatra-Hazlewood one reached the Hot 100 Top 20, plus it was co-written by one of the two members of one of the all-time great rock music songwriting teams. Johnny Cash was a country superstar who has garnered a great deal of posthumous appreciation, which could also account for the greater current popularity of the country hit version. While Lee Hazlewood has also passed away, Nancy Sinatra continues to perform and record. She released a new CD in December 2013 that contains versions of songs she has performed in concerts over the years for which she had not gotten around to recording and releasing studio versions before. Sometimes I call her up at home Knowin' she's busy (she's busy) And ask if she can get away And meet me and grab a bite to eat (a bite to eat) #21) Smith, O.C.: "Little Green Apples" (1968) [2] {2} This song was written by Bobby Russell, who had another huge hit that year with "Honey" by Bobby Goldsboro (and had a few solo hits, including "1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero" that same year and "Saturday Morning Confusion" in 1971). (But he is not the same Bob Russell who co-wrote "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" by the Hollies.) There were two charting versions of this song earlier in 1968, competing covers to each other but not to this one, which came along later. Roger Miller reached #39, and Patti Page only went to #96. And did you feel much more better When he held you in his arms? #22) Travis & Bob: "Tell Him No" (1959) [8] {21} Travis and Bob were Travis Pritchett (who wrote this song) and Bob Weaver. They were from Jackson, AL. Unlike Bud and Travis, the only Hot 100 entry by Travis and Bob won their competing covers battle. A version by Dean and Marc entered the chart the same week, 3/23/1959, but only reached #42. Dean and Marc were brothers with the last name of Mathis and were later part of the Newbeats. Another version of this song was released in the U.K. by the Lana Sisters, one of whose members was Dusty Springfield. I tried to find it on YouTube, but it's not there (yet). This recording could have been used in the GOLQ with the Sandy sub-theme because it was released on the Sandy record label. Get out of here Before I have the time To change my mind 'Cause I'm afraid we'll go too far #23) Union Gap featuring Gary Puckett: "Young Girl" (1968) [2] {-} Gary Puckett turned 70 in October 2012, and in June 2013, he could still sing! I saw him in concert as part of the HAPPY TOGETHER tour, and he sounded as good as he did in the 1960s. By comparison, the other of the two Garys on the bill, Gary Lewis, did not sound as great, but it was still fun to hear him, plus Mark Lindsay of Paul Revere & the Raiders and former members of the Turtles and Three Dog Night. I love you There's nothing to hide It's better Than burning inside I love you No use to pretend #24) Vinton, Bobby: "There! I've Said It Again" (1963/64) [1] {-} John Fox: "The last #1 Billboard hit before the Beatles.50 years ago this month." In fact, that is why I chose this record for this GOLQ. The song was written by Redd Evans and David Mann and was originally popularized by Vaughn Monroe in 1945. Many other artists have recorded it, including Sam Cooke, whose version peaked at #81 in 1959. Because some of the other versions used different punctuation in the title, I accepted all forms that were submitted. Don't hurt me now For her love belongs to me And if she should tell you, "I love you" woh-oh-oh-oh And if she tempts you with her charms #25) Zombies, The: "Tell Her No" (1965) [6] {-} The Zombies were on the ballot for the 2014 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame class, but they didn't make it this time. One of their songs, "I Love You," meets most of the criteria for the "hit vs. hip" list. It was written by group member Chris White and was a hit in the U.S. by a group called People! (with an exclamation point after their name). However, it is the Zombies' version that is heard and remembered today, even to the point where its Wikipedia entry is called "I Love You (The Zombies song)," not "I Love You (People! song)." The only deviation from the "hit vs. hit" criteria is that it was a B-side to the Bubbling Under entry "Whenever You're Ready," rather than an album cut. Originally, it was only released on an album in Holland and Japan, although it has appeared on Zombies and various artists CDs in recent years. ------------ Tie-Breakers ------------ Let me go on loving you Tonight, tonight Making love to only you #T1) Beatles, The: "Hold Me Tight" (1964) [-] {n/c} As I'm sure you know, the 50th anniversary of the Beatles' arrival in the U.S. was celebrated recently. This song is on their first Capitol release in the U.S., MEET THE BEATLES!, which held down the #1 song on the album chart for 11 weeks beginning on February 15, 1964. It was also on their U.K. album WITH THE BEATLES. The songwriting credit is the usual John Lennon-Paul McCartney, but it was principally written by Paul. Paul later wrote a different song called "Hold Me Tight," which was part of a medley on the 1973 album RED ROSE SPEEDWAY by his later group Wings. Team Teitelbaum: "Paul's composition, first recorded in Feb '63 in preparation for their debut LP PLEASE PLEASE ME. It was deemed surplus for that album, and this early version is lost. Re-recorded in September for their second LP, WITH THE BEATLES, released in November '63. Its U.S. appearance was on MEET THE BEATLES in early '64. Recorded in E major, sped up a semitone to F major in the final mix." The Beatles are the "hip" artist for at least one "hit" song--"Birthday" by Underground Sunshine (used too recently to have been included in this GOLQ). I told my friends He'll never get my heart And when I kissed you Had to resist you Said, "Better go" I hurt you so #T2) Springfield, Dusty: "Guess Who?" (1964/65) [109] {-} The EJ'S & Co.: "We suspect you chose the artists on #T1 and #T2 because this month marks the exact 50th anniversary of the start of the British Invasion -- and the first two artists to chart during the Invasion (and the ONLY ones in January 1964) were The Beatles (with 'I Want To Hold Your Hand,' first charted 1/18/64) and Dusty Springfield (with 'I Only Want To Be With You,' first charted 1/25/64). We believe the third group to chart, the Dave Clark Five with 'Glad All Over,' didn't chart until February, 2/15/64 to be exact!" In fact, I did chose #T1 to mark the 50th anniversary of the British Invasion, but this song was chosen mainly to keep the Rag Doll(s)-Dusty- Guess Who string going. I didn't know that Dusty Springfield's "I Only Want To Be With You" was the second British invasion artist to chart. In fact, the first Dusty Springfield song of which I was aware of being by her was "Wishin' and Hopin'" from the summer of 1964, although I probably heard "I Only Want To Be With You" and "Stay Awhile" on the radio without knowing who was singing them. The B-side of this one, "Live It Up," reached #128 on the Bubbling Under chart. Its entry date was two weeks later, making me wonder if after the lack of success of this side, there was an effort to market the other side instead. Because of the obscurity of this song, I accepted the title both with and without the question mark. ============================================================================= This chart ranks the songs/artists from most to least recognized. The second number on the line denotes the average number of points scored on that song (total points divided by number of entrants, to 2 decimal places). For comparison purposes, tie-breakers are scored here on the usual 20-point scale. As with the entry scores, no song got a perfect score of 20.00. This is due in part to the fact that only #19 drew a response from every entry. Even for this one, some entries gave an incomplete artist name, and one submitted a completely incorrect response. The two songs at the bottom surprised me. Although it was tied for last, "Guess Who?" by Dusty Springfield did better, in terms of average score, than I expected. "I Can Make It With You" did worse than I expected. Others that did better than I expected them to do were "I Don't Want To Cry" and "Peter Rabbit." Another one that did worse than I expected it to do was "There! I've Said It Again." Rank Avg. Song ---+-----+----+-------------------------------------------------------------- T01 18.46 #07) Faithfull, Marianne: "As Tears Go By" T01 18.46 #08) 4 Seasons, The: "Rag Doll" T01 18.46 #10) Harpers Bizarre: "The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)" T01 18.46 #14) March, Little Peggy: "I Will Follow Him" T01 18.46 #25) Zombies, The: "Tell Her No" T06 17.69 #03) Bud and Travis: "Ballad of the Alamo" T06 17.69 #04) Cadets, The: "Stranded in the Jungle" T06 17.69 #15) McDaniels, Gene: "A Hundred Pounds Of Clay" 09 17.08 #23) Union Gap featuring Gary Puckett: "Young Girl" T10 16.92 #01) Beach Boys, The: "Surfin' Safari" T10 16.92 #12) Jackson, Chuck: "I Don't Want To Cry" T10 16.92 #13) Lee, Brenda "Sweet Nothin's" T10 16.92 #20) Sinatra, Nancy, and Lee Hazlewood: "Jackson" T10 16.92 #21) Smith, O.C.: "Little Green Apples" 15 16.77 #19) Seville, David, The Music of: "Witch Doctor" 16 16.15 #11) Hondells, The: "Younger Girl" 17 15.77 #17) Presley, Elvis with The Jordanaires: "(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Be T18 15.38 #05) Dee Jay and the Runaways: "Peter Rabbit" T18 15.38 #09) Guess Who, The: "Laughing" T18 15.38 #24) Vinton, Bobby: "There! I've Said It Again" T18 15.38 #T1) Beatles, The: "Hold Me Tight" T22 13.85 #02) Belvin, Jesse: "Guess Who" T22 13.85 #06) Draper, Rusty: "Seventeen" T22 13.85 #22) Travis & Bob: "Tell Him No" 25 11.54 #18) Rag Dolls, The: "Dusty" T26 9.23 #16) Pozo-Seco Singers: "I Can Make It With You" T26 9.23 #T2) Springfield, Dusty: "Guess Who?" ---+-----+----+-------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================ Regina Litman <golq324@golq.org>